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    Are Administrators from Mars, and Clinicians are from Venus?

    October 3rd, 2007

    by Tony Chen

    Okay, I think it's time to talk about the big pink elephant in the middle of the room. Time and time again, we have skirted the issue. But no more.

    Has anyone read the book Men are from Mars,Women are from Venus? I skimmed it quickly once standing at a Borders, and it's surprisingly good. It's like men and women are talking a completely different language. A lot of words are exchanged, but somehow nothing is connecting. Is there that much of a difference?

    In the hospital world, the stereotypes go like this:

    Physicians are greedy. All they care about is money, money, money, just trying to make that extra buck, squeezing in that extra patient.

    On the other extreme, physicians and nurses don't care about money or business at all - they don't care if we lose our shirts and close shop. While we applaud their compassion, they have no sense of the system and how things need to be run to be sustainable.

    As for adminstrators, they are just heartless and clueless. They have no idea what happens on the front lines of patient care. They have no idea that every patient has different needs, different issues. Every patient has a family. Administrators are just about bean-counting. They just care about numbers and metrics and these spreadsheets that have nothing to do with anything. Isn't healthcare about helping people in their greatest moments of need?

    Okay, so there, I said it. It's out there.

    Now, let me just be clear that most of the physicians and administrators I know don't fall into these extreme stereotypes. Most physicians are patient-focused to the core but also have a sense of the bigger systems picture. Most administrators care about healthcare, care about the long-term health of the hospital, and desire better results for the right reasons.

    The problem is that this perception has been ingrained by so much previous bad experience and miscommunication. How do we begin to turn the tide?

    1. Spend a day in my shoes. This goes both ways. Spend a day (or even just an hour or two) shadowing your counterpart. So many people gave me this advice when I first started working for the hospital. For administrative and corporate folks, go on rounds with physicians. Spend 4 hours on a nursing floor (during a shift change) and you'll begin to understand how many split-second decisions are made with such precision and finesse by your front-line clinicians. And for clinicians, take some time to listen to the pressures and challenges that the administrator faces. Think about how one seemingly "small" decision sets a precedent for a thousand others and the potential impact on the whole organization.

    2. Get to know the people behind the roles. This probably goes without saying, but I haven't seen this done nearly as much as it should. And I'm just as guilty of this, too. When you know that Lucy has 3 kids and one of them is having a hard time at school, when you know that Dennis went into healthcare finance because his 3 aunts went broke from hospital bills, it's that much easier to work together. We're all just people. And eventually, we are all patients, too.

    3. Begin to learn each other's lingo. This goes with the previous points. More and more, I'm realizing that it really is a different language. Literally. The acronyms, the abbreviations, the slang, the inside jokes - sometimes we spend so much time in our own little world, we forget that others don't understand (or worse yet, misunderstand) what we're trying to say.

    4. Give people the benefit of the doubt. I know this is soft and fluffy, but remember that those stereotypes above probably don't apply to 90-95% of the people you work with (Nick just commented that only 10 out of his 550 physicians fall into that "greedy" category).

    5. Realize that you need each other. Like it or not, someone has to see each patient, and yet someone has to focus on the aggregate. More importantly, there are some issues and problems that may never be solved without the two working together. Some finance guy looking a spreadsheet doesn't understand why a cost started going up, while the clinician may not even notice that it's gone up. Working together and bringing both expertises/perspectives, a better, more creative solution can be found.

    What else would you suggest?

    Comments:

    Comment from: healdoc@aol.com [Visitor]


    If we keep the focus on the patient's needs, what we can afford to provide, and on being fair to all people, then administrators and doctors are similar. however, the truth is that some doctors and some administrators are greedy, and it makes the rest of us look bad. truth is, we need more doctors in administrative positions, and perhaps more administrators in clinical positions.
    Permalink 10/04/07 @ 13:05
    Comment from: Judy Volkar MD [Visitor]
    Be honest in thought, word and deed.

    Follow the golden rule.

    Don't waste each others time and have meetings if nothing the other person says will change your course of action.

    Permalink 10/05/07 @ 06:06
    Comment from: Zagreus Ammon [Visitor] · http://executivephysician.blosgspot.com
    It doesn't help that physicians and executives are acculturated very differently. I think it is very hard for physicians to get used to an environment with multiple stakeholdres who have equal or greater power in some decisions.
    Permalink 10/05/07 @ 22:07
    Comment from: hospitaltony [Member]
    there seems to be so many parallels to bad personal relationships we've all experienced. because of the history, there's no trust. there's this "i won't change if they won't change" kind of attitude.

    What other solutions can there be? What can we do differently in the training/education of new physicians and executives to change this culture?
    Permalink 10/08/07 @ 18:11
    Comment from: Tamyra Hyatt [Visitor] · http://www.statcom.com/
    Oh this is perfect. We were just talking about Mars/Venus in an exec meeting. These comments actually apply in every industry/business. I would add "The Power of Thank You" -- the idea of showing gratitude is a powerful leveler.

    I've just discovered your blog. Excellent, relevant topics, fun to read. Hope you don't mind if I plug it in our industry newsletter, Going with the Patient Flow.

    We're conducting a hospital industry survey targeting executives on bed management and patient flow issues. I'd like to copy you on the results. Who do I send it to?

    Keep up the great content.

    Cheers -- Tamyra Hyatt
    Permalink 10/10/07 @ 10:18
    Comment from: Lavinia Weissman [Visitor] · http://www.workecology.com
    Researchers are now spending hundreds of thousands of dollars reporting on social network analysis and portfolio work that provides the structure of trust.

    WorkEcology Resource Library.


    Leadership Experts, e.g. Howard Gardner, insist that the decline of trust
    in the workplace is the opportunity for inquiry into a new tipping point
    of change.

    It's the basis for WorkEcology and
    it's associated practices, e.g. Applied Systems Thinking.
    Permalink 10/11/07 @ 15:24
    Comment from: convert32 [Visitor]
    This article is very interesting. Thank you very much for sharing .
    Convert MTS
    Permalink 11/29/09 @ 09:48

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